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Chuck Bruton — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:00:19 -0000

Whoa, aren't you misguided by the far left liberal media. MSNBC is not a journalist or news network.

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Faux News — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 00:51:02 -0000

"Hannity and Colmes are always balanced by guests ...always."
Ahhhhh hahahahahaahahahahahaha!!!! yeah right. you make me lol.

Shep Smith is definitely by far their best anchor. Never was a fan of the monotone bore that is Brit Hume, O'Rielly is a blowhard and shouts over anyone he disagrees with. I challenge you to search through some hannity and colmes videos on youtube and tell me they're balanced by their guests, mwaaa haha. I don't hate FOX news but trying to call them out as the last bastion of honest reporting is laughable.

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Politicalssidiot — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:05:38 -0000

This is PoliticalssIdiot and I don't like Olbermann.

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LeanderTheSalamander — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:55:48 -0000

These days I am actually longing for the long-gone days of evening TV news. Five minutes of local news, five minutes of weather forecast, five minutes of sports and fifteen minutes of either Huntley-Brinkley or Walter Cronkite.

In a half hour a night, you got better and more useful information than you do today with all the 24/7 outlets combined.

I mean, really...who cares what any of these self-appointed experts think about anything? And who really should give a rat's rear bumper about the celebrity of the moment and the latest trends?

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Stuart — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:41:29 -0000

"newstainment." I like that and I agree but I have to say that is what all cable news networks are about CNN,MSNBC,and FOX. I dont see a difference between any of them. Forget about the tingle in his leg when Matthews said his job now is to make sure that the new admininstration suceeds it was all over.You can no longer claim to be fair when you stated your objective is something over then reporting the news. Colber Report is a rip at O'reilly though and not Olbermann. Olbermann is just the otherside of the coin that is Bill O'Reilly Headline news is OK I guess. When it comes to cable news if you want opinion then go ahead and watch but I agree they are not news programs. Real news programs are getting harder and harder to find.

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baystater — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:44:28 -0000

She writes it herself and sometimes makes changes mid-show, during commercial breaks. You don't have to agree with her, but this is a smart girl whether you'd like to believe it or not.

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Mike — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 17:30:13 -0000

"reason" is not something you see on Fox News or MSNBC. If you watch the prime time Fox News shows and believe the liberal point of view is presented fairly, well, there's not much more to say to you.

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Voice of Experience — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:44:01 -0000

The difference between CNN and MSNBC is the difference between Mao and Stalin

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CaptDMO — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:04:25 -0000

"We might say about (Maddow).... She is low-key, clever, intelligent and usually effective."
What, exactly, demonstrates the "intelligent" part of reading a teleprompter?
Who actually writes and/or edits that narrative?

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Todd — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:54:52 -0000

Skip TV except for football. Internet news is where it's at. Having a TV in your house is like stabling a horse in it. You end up with with mountains of droppings for your brain. Radio is good for news too. Trashed my TV decades ago.

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CHat — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:50:21 -0000

Do you think that maybe the reason the opposition looks foolish is because, once reason is applied, it actually IS foolish? Just sayin'.

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vegasguy — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:49:12 -0000

You hit it right on the nose. The "news" sources Mr. Steinman cited are no less liberal than MSNBC. They just claim not to be while MSNBC at least admits their bias. Fox News does have a decidedly conservative flavor but I get facts from there that all of the other "news" sources ignore.

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Pamela — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:28:17 -0000

"Preferably, that will be online to a credible Web site, such as BBC News, The New York Times, Google News, Yahoo, or any site one thinks is best for his or her needs. "

I'm worried if these are the places you go for news. The NYT? Wow...and Google is the worst offender of all. They remove conservative/traditional Christian/etc... sites from their search so non-liberal opinions aren't found. How biased and dishonest can a "news" service be?

What worries me the most about all this is that people (including you) really believe the sites you specify are going to give them the truth. The fact is, if one wants the 'whole' truth, it would require looking into a variety of sites that one knows hold opposing views and then taking the information and deciding for oneself.

People always want to attack Rush Limbaugh but would not listen to him for their lives. I suspect they are afraid of what they will hear and have to start questioning their desired beliefs. It's easier to accuse him of being a hate monger and 'biased' than to confront his arguments. But after the election and the results of the Rasmussen Poll showing how poorly people (democrats) were educated by the media, (mainly the sources you are talking about here) I would think people would reconsider where they get their 'news'.

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Mike — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:48:45 -0000

Fox News "Always provide time for opposing views"???? You've got to be kidding me. They craft the opposing viewpoint to further support their side and make the opposition look foolish. Please don't tell me you fall for that.

Actually, Pat Buchanan, Andrew Sullivan and Kathleen Parker ARE conservatives. It is the big-government Bushes (and their enablers like Hannity) who have abandoned the Republican party.

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Mike — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:43:31 -0000

Is this a joke? You say that "More than anyone on TV, Keith Olbermann reminds me of Stephen Colbert." You do know that Colbert's character is a parody of Bill O'Reilly. You are right that MSNBC's prime time does not contain "news." But it was Fox News that created the no-news all entertainment prime time, which MSNBC now copies on the liberal side. If you think that Fox News in prime time (as you suggest in your final paragraph) offers any useful "news," any analysis you provide lacks all credibility.

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Ashley — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:42:07 -0000

Olbermann's show is in the same time slot as Bill O'Reilly's. Maddow is up against Sean Hannity. To suggest that one can switch from MSNBC to Fox between 8 PM and 10 PM Eastern for strict news instead of opinion is absurd.

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Kdizzydaze — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:35:43 -0000

Right On -

I would say in defense of Fox and Friends, given that the other options in the morning are GMA, Today Show, and CBS Morning News, they aren't so bad as all of them are biased.

Just throwing that in there. good stuff

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olberhack — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:31:39 -0000

the real irony is that keith olbermann has NEVER interviewed someone with a disagreeing point. chuck hagel and scott mcclellan are the ONLY 'republicans' he's ever had on there, and they were both interviewed in support of obama / in attacking george w bush.

look at the guest list... its scary... something like 400 liberals vs 0 disagreeing points!!! 0!!!! and this is the 'murrow of our time???'

heck, even hannity and o'reilly have disagreers on their show EVERY NIGHT.

"Partisan politicos and strategists interviewed by Keith Olbermann on Countdown (MSNBC weeknights, 8:00 pm Eastern), identified by party:

May 22 (2006): Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
June 9: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
June 16: Rep John Murtha (D)
June 19: Al Gore (D)
June 20: Sen Jack Reed (D)
June 20: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
June 23: Al Gore (D)
July 5: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
July 12: Barbara Boxer (D)
July 13: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
July 26: Bill Richardson (D)
August 8: Daily Kos (D)
August 9: Joe Trippi (D)
August 30: Howard Dean (D)
August 31: Barbara Boxer (D)
August 31: Rocky Anderson (D)
September 5: Tom Kean Jr (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
September 6: Richard Ben-Veniste (D)
September 7: Sean Maloney (D)
September 8: Mack McLarty (D)
September 11: Max Cleland (D)
September 20: Jane Hamsher (D)
September 22: Bill Jefferson Clinton (D)
September 26: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
September 28: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
October 16: John Ashcroft (R)
October 18: Joe Trippi (D)
October 20: Barack Obama (D)
October 26: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
October 31: Joe Trippi (D)
November 6: Howard Dean (D)
November 22: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
November 30: Joe Trippi (D)
December 6: Russ Feingold (D)
January 3 (2007): Barney Frank (D)
January 4: John Murtha (D)
January 4: Jay Rockefeller (D)
January 11: Russ Feingold (D)
January 18: George McGovern (D)
January 23: Hillary Clinton (D)
January 24: James Webb (D)
January 24: Hillary Clinton (D)
February 20: Tammy Duckworth (D)
February 21: David Boies (D)
February 27: Patrick Murphy (D)
March 21: Charles Schumer (D)
March 22: Patrick Leahy (D)
April 2: Joe Biden (D)
April 3: Russ Feingold (D)
April 6: Madeleine Albright (D)
May 15: Lanny Davis (D)
May 29: Al Gore (D)
June 5: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
June 20: Wesley Clark (D)
June 26: Rahm Emanuel (D)
July 6: Wesley Clark (D)
July 12: Wesley Clark (D)
July 20: John Kerry (D)
July 26: Wesley Clark (D)
August 6: Wesley Clark (D)
August 8: Joe Biden (D)
August 14: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
August 30: Wesley Clark (D)
September 4: Wesley Clark (D)
September 12: Chris Dodd (D)
September 13: Joe Biden (D)
September 27: Jim Webb (D)
September 27: Bill Clinton (D)
September 28: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
September 28: Bill Clinton (D)
October 3: John Edwards (D)
October 11: Hillary Clinton (D)
October 12: Bill Richardson (D)
October 24: John Garabendi (D)
October 29: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
November 19: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
November 29: John Edwards (D)
November 30: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
December 11: Tim Roemer (D)
December 14: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
December 14: Markos Moulitas (D)
December 27: Chris Dodd (D)
January 4 (2008): John Edwards (D)
January 10: Bill Richardson (D)
January 11: Rush Holt (D)
January 23: John Edwards (D)
February 25: Dee Dee Myers (D)
March 14: Barack Obama (D)
March 21: Bill Richardson (D)
March 31: Chuck Hagel (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
April 9: Elizabeth Edwards (D)
April 21: Hillary Clinton (D)
April 25: James Clyburn (D)
April 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
May 1: Joe Andrew (D)
May 9: Harry Reid (D)
May 9: James Webb (D)
May 28: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
June 6: Chris Kofinis (D)
June 9: Scott McClellan (R) [speaking against Bush policies]
June 11: John Kerry (D)
June 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
June 23: Markos Moulitsas (D)
June 25: Robert Wexler (D)
June 30: Jim Webb (D)
July 1: Chris Kofinis (D)
July 17: Chris Kofinis (D)
July 21: Chris Kofinis (D)
July 22: Chris Kofinis (D)
July 25: Bob Barr (L)
July 31: Chris Kofinis (D)
August 8: Chris Kofinis (D)
August 12: Chris Kofinis (D)
August 20: Chris Kofinis (D)
September 8: Barack Obama (D)
September 9: Barack Obama (D)
September 10: Chris Kofinis (D)
September 12: Markos Moulitsas (D)
September 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
September 18: Chris Kofinis (D)
September 24: Chris Kofinis (D)
September 25: Rahm Emanuel (D)
September 26: Robert Gibbs (D)
September 30: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 2: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 2: Claire McCaskill (D)
October 7: Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D)
October 8: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
October 13: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 15: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 15: Rahm Emanuel (D)
October 16: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 17: Robert Bauer (D)
October 23: David Axelrod (D)
October 27: Chris Kofinis (D)
October 31: David Axelrod (D)
November 3: Chris Kofinis (D)
November 5: Chris Kofinis (D)
November 13: Chris Kofinis (D)
November 13: Robert Reich (D)
November 14: Chris Kofinis (D)
November 24: Robert Reich (D)
December 5: Robert Reich (D)"

Wow! what 'courage' for.... um... talking to democrats?

http://www.olbermannwatch.c...

Re: Crossing the Line - The Digital Journalist

Kdizzydaze — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:27:15 -0000

I agree that CNN Headline News actually give you the news of the day and it does seem relatively unbiased.
As for FOX Report w/Shepherd Smith. The same goes (watch it, you might be surprised).

As for the other issues you seek to uncover or investigate, the issue is not fairness in reporting or even accurate journalism - it is the control of information. We need and deserve full disclosure.

And here's a personal thought that may even apply to some of you: I know more about Sarah Palin's personal life than I think I do about my own wife - and I know less about our soon to be President than I do about my new next door neighbors that moved in just last week.

Isn't something wrong with that picture??

As stated by

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Mazz — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:12:57 -0000

You're just NOW figuring this out?

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Deb — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 10:09:18 -0000

Journalists tend to come from the I-want-to-save-the-world types, the remedies-by-state-solutions crowd, i.e. liberals. (I speak from experience here.)
Thus, our media saturation is colored from the same perspective, and veering into indoctrination at times.
It IS an important first step for all of us to see these biases at work in the media, so we can work our way through to consideration of a wider range of views, to get at truthful insights into the world. It is important to regularly have multiple viewpoints vigorously presented, in a round-table-type format, and not just using token, lame commentators.
THIS will drive up viewer/reader interest and ratings AND renew respect for journalism.

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sabbott — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:19:50 -0000

NBC, MSNBC and Microsoft have been banned at my home!

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Red Half — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:08:29 -0000

So, MSNBC has finally lost its persona of "News" to even fellow left leaning established media types that are attempting to be fair. Why even Saturday Night Live skewered "OldGirlMan" as being somewhat to the left of Stalin but more unhinged and he was portrayed by "BenAFlack" who is part of the loony left himself. OK, so the real issue, if there is any, is that MSNBC still sells themselves as "News" when they clearly are not, they are Very, very left leaning ideologues. Correct sir, you get two points! However, the Conservative Half 'yes that's half' of the county has know for over half a century that the media swoons over Dem's and big Gov and rails against Rep's and Conservative values. When Fox came along and put a few conservatives on the air as "commentators", it was so unusual to hear a different point of view on air that most of the Left was and still is howling it's biased. Which just illustrates how totally intolerant and BIAS they are. I say let MSNBC and Fox go at it. Mostly, the left wants to shut down opposing points of view not debate in the arena of ideas - I think this is healthy and the left starting to realize its institutionalized bias is a good first step. When there is a Fox type outlet for every (AP, Rueters, NYT, WAPO, CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, BBC and Hollywood) things will be fair. Until then it's baised left, left and way-way left.

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Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:57:24 -0000

Sweet be-jebus. What took you so long?

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Jack — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:35:31 -0000

There is a complete difference between Fox News and Oreilly/Hannity & Colmes. The former is a news program and the latter are commentary. The latter make no bones about it. Nevertheless, the latter always provide time for opposing views.

Mathews job is to support Obama. Olbermans job is even less objective. Neither provide time for opposing views. (Pat Buchanan, Andrew Sullivan are not conservatives. Like Kathleen Parker, they are media whores lacking basic morality and intellectual honesty.) They make me hope that there is a God, and that people are punished for their sins.

As for CNN, they have never met a terrorist they didn't like.